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THIS BLOG IS: my personal journey of how I am rethinking some of my spiritual beliefs.
THIS BLOG IS NOT: intended to point fingers at people who I think are wrong.
I do not believe the final judgement will be based on how many correct answers we get on a theology exam. I believe many people throughout history have had genuine relationships with our Lord and Saviour Jesus, despite holding questionable beliefs and practices. I make no claim to having it all figured out or being your judge. If we end up disagreeing over these topics I pray we can find a way to demonstrate grace.

Friday, August 28, 2009

Whodunnit - Who Killed Jesus?

Did God kill Jesus? Was Jesus punished by God's just wrath in our place for our sin? I don't think so. But the question of who killed Jesus seems to come up now and then.

OK, I'm not sure I want to create some new theological position here, and give it a new name... or quite likely this isn't a new position at all... I'm just thinking this freshly for myself...

Is it possible to view what happened at the cross as Jesus being killed by our sins?

Did our sin kill Jesus?

Romans 6:9-11 (NIV)
"For we know that since Christ was raised from the dead, he cannot die again; death no longer has mastery over him. The death he died, he died to sin once for all; but the life he lives, he lives to God. In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus."
Rom 6:23 (NIV)
"For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord."
Rom 4:25 (NIV)
"He was delivered over to death for our sins and was raised to life for our justification. "
Gal 5:24 (NIV)
"Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires."
Rom 6:11 (NIV)
"In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus."
1 Corinthians 15:3 (NIV)
"For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures,"
1 Peter 2:24 (NIV)
"He himself bore our sins in his body on the tree, so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness; by his wounds you have been healed."
1 Peter 3:18 (NIV)
"For Christ died for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God. He was put to death in the body but made alive by the Spirit,"
1 Timothy 2:6 (NIV)
"who gave himself as a ransom for all men—the testimony given in its proper time."
Titus 2:14 (NIV)
"who gave himself for us to redeem us from all wickedness and to purify for himself a people that are his very own, eager to do what is good."
Matthew 20:28 (NIV)
"just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many."

OK... so I can't find a verse that says "Our sins killed Jesus". But my logic goes like this:
  • Jesus carried our sins to the cross
  • the wages of sin is death
  • He died for our sins
  • He gave His life on his own will, His life was not taken from Him
  • He gave His life as a ransom. For a ransom analogy someone is being held captive by a bad power, and a payment is given to the bad power to free the captive. Who is the bad power holding us captive that the payment was made to? God or sin? Our lives were held captive to the power of sin, and Jesus chose to give his life, to take our sin, and free us from our bondage to sin.
So who done it? Was it God that killed Jesus? Or did our sin kill Jesus?

What do you think?

Are there other verses? That either support or disprove the thought that our sins killed Jesus?

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Dusty Chris said...

From this stand point, it was more suicide than murder. He willingly died, gave himself up so that we could have victory over sin. I don't think our sin killed Jesus...Sin is not that powerful. But as a sacrifice, Jesus beat sin so we could have life.

Jonathan said...

Thanks Dusty Chris for your comments.

Hmm... yes he sacrificed himself willingly, to defeat sin so we could have life... but why?

I'm just questioning the idea that some have the God the Father and his wrath was what killed Jesus.

Jesus comes out looking good, but I don't see why God the Father should be painted in this negative way. That He required a human sacrifice before He was capable of having a relationship with us.

If Jesus was the good force on that day... who or what was the evil force he was up against?

If Jesus is the savior... what's he saving us from? Is He saving us from God's wrath, or from the power of sin?