tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2203174451356862507.post6898342718184878890..comments2023-05-20T06:30:03.560-05:00Comments on Jon's Journey: Are the Wicked Punished in Hell Forever?Jonathanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01266729238990589293noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2203174451356862507.post-72365852673855683392009-05-23T16:40:23.448-05:002009-05-23T16:40:23.448-05:00Anonymous - sorry a bit late on the reply here... ...Anonymous - sorry a bit late on the reply here... you say: "Jesus talked about hell more than all the other writers of the Bible combined." <br />Please let me know if I missed any verses where Jesus talked of the type of Hell that punishes the wicked forever. I do think Jesus spent more time talking about how we to live in the here and now... so I do agree with you that when we focus too much on the afterlife it is often done in speculation.<br /><br />Vic - I'm with you on the natural consequence line of thought. I'm no Greek scholar - barely function well enough in English. So I need to look elsewhere to repond about thanatos. From what I read on wikipedia Thanatos was a Greek personification of death. And according to <br />http://scripturetext.com/romans/6-23.htm <br />thanatos means death and all the Bible translations I've looked at translate it as death.<br />So I'm curious what info you have that would support the idea that death in Rom 6:23 really means separation.<br /><br />Thanks for the comments! God bless!Jonathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01266729238990589293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2203174451356862507.post-14166006650017335222009-05-22T11:54:07.793-05:002009-05-22T11:54:07.793-05:00Interesting postulations. Hell to me has always se...Interesting postulations. Hell to me has always seemed to be the natural consequences of a choice not to want anything to do with God in this life. So it is a default position. God honors our choices and if we don't want God in this life, why would He force an eternity with him by granting us life. The question of destruction? Sin itself is destructive and our participation in it causes self-inflicted guilt and a turning away or hiding from our relationship with Him for a time until we can overcome our perceived shame.So it becomes a tearing apart of what we thought we had gained in building up a relationship.<br />Regarding the issue of death. The Greek word is "thanatos" which literally means separation and never insinuates a ceasing to exist. It can mean separation of the soul from the body or in the true spiritual sense an eternal separation of the soul from God, thus eternal darkness and eternal destruction since your choice to repair the effect of your destructive behavior has reached an end.Vicnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2203174451356862507.post-76617938333574313562009-02-16T20:45:00.000-06:002009-02-16T20:45:00.000-06:00Jesus talked about hell more than all the other wr...Jesus talked about hell more than all the other writers of the Bible combined.<BR/><BR/>God the Father poured His wrath upon His Son and killed Him. All those outside of Christ will suffer the eternal wrath of God. I don't think any of us can grasp what hell will be like.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2203174451356862507.post-76934308475337176962009-02-11T16:54:00.000-06:002009-02-11T16:54:00.000-06:00Hi Zig, thanks for reading my thoughts here. I don...Hi Zig, thanks for reading my thoughts here. I don't think this let's sinners get off easy. I think it is very consistent with God's nature. The theme of "the wages of sin is death" occurs frequently throughout scripture. <BR/><BR/>I think it is equally dangerous to hold too tight to a doctrine that isn't strongly supported in scripture. I'm OK saying this is something I'm not 100% sure about. If this part of the doctrine of Hell was a central part of Christ's message, I believe He would have included more details.<BR/><BR/>God bless!Jonathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01266729238990589293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2203174451356862507.post-67755702604102679782009-02-11T10:48:00.000-06:002009-02-11T10:48:00.000-06:00interesting question, but definitely dangerous gro...interesting question, but definitely dangerous ground here. Kind of takes the seriousness out of the less desirable alternative. Also could possibly provide comfort to those that want to live as they do, and feel such sort of hell, where it's not eternal punishment, just lack of everlasting life is alright with them... Dangerous post dude...mr zighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03051556128362234563noreply@blogger.com