tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2203174451356862507.post3336323290639465936..comments2023-05-20T06:30:03.560-05:00Comments on Jon's Journey: Playdough Scripture Matt 28:19-20Jonathanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01266729238990589293noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2203174451356862507.post-62862708178142258142012-09-28T07:23:52.037-05:002012-09-28T07:23:52.037-05:00Thanks for the comments Steve, I suspect we may ha...Thanks for the comments Steve, I suspect we may have to disagree on this one. If you re-read the links I gave in my comment we see baptism meant immersion, to dye, submerged, dipped, plunged... into something. Yes often the something was water. Can you see a link between how this verse is written and how Matt 3:11, and Mark 1:8 are written?Jonathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01266729238990589293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2203174451356862507.post-48389450363739467112012-09-28T00:02:59.412-05:002012-09-28T00:02:59.412-05:00That's what Baptism is...WITH water. Almost ev...That's what Baptism is...WITH water. Almost every instance of baptism in the New Testament, is with water. (indeed, that is what the word means)<br /><br />Is there a Baptism of the Holy Spirit? Yes there is. But that does not negate that baptism means washing with water, with God's Word attached to it.<br /><br />Where was Jesus 'baptized'? In a river.<br /><br /><br />Thanks, Jon.Steve Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13251554325064300307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2203174451356862507.post-29156736736824359672012-09-25T17:15:39.147-05:002012-09-25T17:15:39.147-05:00Hi again Steve. We know baptism doesn't always...Hi again Steve. We know baptism doesn't always mean with water.<br /><br />There are other examples of this term used in Matthew, the New Testament and other sources where baptism is used to talk about immersion into something other than water. <br /> <br />http://jonjourney.blogspot.ca/2012/06/what-did-baptism-mean.html<br /><br />http://jonjourney.blogspot.ca/2012/06/baptism-without-water.html<br /><br />I love the symbolism that our tradition of imersion in water. But I don't see anything in this specific text that implies water.<br /><br />Thanks for the comment. Jonathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01266729238990589293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2203174451356862507.post-57195152907198005962012-09-25T16:57:09.123-05:002012-09-25T16:57:09.123-05:00Jon,
Baptism means 'with water'. The amou...Jon,<br /><br />Baptism means 'with water'. The amount of water is immaterial since it is God's Word of promise (in the name of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit) which makes the Baptism efficacious.<br /><br />Jesus told us to go and Baptize. I did not think we had the ability to give people the Holy Spirit...if Baptism means to give people the Spirit.Steve Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13251554325064300307noreply@blogger.com