tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2203174451356862507.post1337952447827193774..comments2023-05-20T06:30:03.560-05:00Comments on Jon's Journey: What Did Baptism Mean?Jonathanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01266729238990589293noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2203174451356862507.post-49385727516194018952012-06-13T08:37:25.894-05:002012-06-13T08:37:25.894-05:00Much props for the reference to the sword baptized...Much props for the reference to the sword baptized in blood. That imagery is awesome!Danhttp://someekklesia.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2203174451356862507.post-18807804105841283772012-06-12T08:29:28.826-05:002012-06-12T08:29:28.826-05:00Thanks Steve. I don't think we are that far of...Thanks Steve. I don't think we are that far off. I am just trying to look at what these words actually meant. Yet I understand water has been used throughout Christian history to symbolize this Spiritual cleansing and new birth. Bear with me as I write a few more posts. I don't think my conclusions will be that far off from yours.Jonathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01266729238990589293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2203174451356862507.post-77363241505584085152012-06-12T06:55:03.276-05:002012-06-12T06:55:03.276-05:00Yes I did (thanks).
The Bible tells us that we ar...Yes I did (thanks).<br /><br />The Bible tells us that we are saved by "water and the Spirit", and Jesus submitted himself to a water baptism...so we understand it to mean water, and because of what Jesus told us, the Word.<br /><br />If someone had no water available (stuck in the desert) could a valid baptism happen using sand, etc.?<br /><br />We say sure, because God's Word would still be attached to it, and for us that is the main part of the equation.Steve Martinhttp://theoldadam.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2203174451356862507.post-31615839322422219572012-06-11T17:48:01.247-05:002012-06-11T17:48:01.247-05:00Thanks Steve for the comment. Did you take a look ...Thanks Steve for the comment. Did you take a look at the link in my post. It seems the term had a simpler meaning, and it didn't always have a connection with water.<br /><br />With this in mind, the reference in Matthew 28 may have a fresh meaning. I will look at that soon.Jonathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01266729238990589293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2203174451356862507.post-37846558897335198432012-06-11T17:03:58.661-05:002012-06-11T17:03:58.661-05:00I think that the word refers to a ritualized washi...I think that the word refers to a ritualized washing with water...to make clean. <br /><br />Since God (Jesus) commanded that we Baptize (Matthew 28), in the name of the Triune God, I don't believe the mode is as imporatnt as the Word attached to the water.<br /><br />It is God's promises, attached to the water (no matter how much water...that would be a legaistic demand) that is what makes Baptism effective in the life of the BELIEVER. None believers can be baptized and God's promises are good and valid in that Baptism.<br /><br />But when the gospel is heard (really heard) and faith comes...then Baptism is complete.<br /><br />Thanks.Steve Martinhttp://theoldadam.com/noreply@blogger.com